HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVES

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I was only marginally familiar with Historian Niall Ferguson because of his involvement with the brilliant PBS Series, The Ascent of Money.  So, when I viewed these remarks he made in response to a question about the President’s “policy” in the Middle East focusing on Egypt – a “flip followed by a flop” – I immediately determined to post the video here.  (Several hours later, after figuring out, MSNBC does not post directly to WordPress; setting up a VodPod account; and maneuvering through their interface with the WordPress platform, here it is.  Now, you  just have to click on the link below this image, to view video.)

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But hearing Mr. Ferguson praise the foreign policy creds of Henry Kissinger – National Security Advisor under President Nixon and Secretary of State under both Nixon and President Ford – I was reminded that understanding history requires (at least) an awareness of the contextual history of the historian.  See, my disillusionment with the Nobel Peace Prize did not occur in 2010 with Obama but with Kissinger, in 1973.  http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1973/ Here is a pretty good amalgamation of the lowlights of Mr. Kissinger’s forays into foreign policy territory from a site I just discovered called zpub, based in SF, CA.

In the minutes of a secret 1975 meeting of the National Security Council attended by President Ford reveal Henry Kissinger grumbling, “It is an act of insanity and national humiliation to have a law prohibiting the President from ordering assassination.”LOST CRUSADER: The Secret Wars of CIA Director William Colby, by John Prados, Oxford University Press, 2003

The February and March 2001 issues of Harper’s Magazine feature a series by Christopher Hitchens on the case for charging Kissinger with War Crimes. Part I: The making of a war criminal Part 2 will feature an extensive section on East Timor.

Christopher Hitchens’ Trial of Henry Kissinger: A Review By Mike McGlothlin …

Hitchens presents a rather straightforward argument that establishes two seemingly undeniable propositions: on at least one occasion, Henry K. conspired to commit murder, and that on numerous other occasions, Henry K. was the primary force behind certain acts that could quite plausibly be considered war crimes. The case for Henry K. as murder conspirator is what Hitchens calls a “lay-down” case, i.e., one that stands out for its clear facts and clear law. The murder victim is General Rene Schneider, who was the Commander in Chief of the Chilean Army, whom Hitchens misidentifies as the Chilean “Chief of Staff.”; According to Hitchens (and the 09 September, 1970 minutes of the “40” Committee, the Kissinger chaired secret panel that oversaw U.S. covert operations), the Chilean military had a strong tradition of neutrality in political affairs, a rarity on the South American continent. General Schneider was known as an officer committed to upholding the Chilean constitution and therefore opposed to the rumored incipient coup against newly elected Socialist President Salvador Allende by a right wing would-be junta of current and former Chilean military officers. Using U.S. Government communications cables from the CIA and documents from the State Department, and White House, Hitchens relates the facts of Kissinger’s direct involvement in the direction, planning, financing, and general support by the organs of the U.S. Government in the plot to remove General Schneider.

LA Weekly: WLS Review: Henry: Portrait of a Serial Kissinger

How You Can Do What the Government Won’t: Arrest Henry Kissinger – Manhattan’s Milosevic, The Village Voice, Week of August 15 – 21, 2001

… bring Henry Kissinger to justice for crimes against humanity. Consider, though, what happened to the last people to talk even jokingly about plans for a citizen’s arrest of the real-life model for Dr. Strangelove. … An indictment of Henry Kissinger for genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes would include (but not be confined to) the following. …

Henry Kissinger: War Criminal or Old-Fashioned Murderer? – Welcome to the “Henry Kissinger: Unindicted Terrorist” file! …

Incredibly, Henry Kissinger—the man who rivals Pol Pot for the dubious honor of being the person responsible for the death of the largest number of innocent people in South East Asia (and far surpasses Pol Pot in criminality when one factors in Kissinger’s various levels of responsibility for wholesale slaughter and repression in other parts of the world)—still wields significant power in the United States; but his role as eager facilitator of mass murder, totalitarian repression and other atrocities is never discussed in polite society.

Masterminded the murder of as estimated 600,000 peasants in Cambodia (the “Secret bombing”)

Pol Pot And Kissinger On war criminality and impunity by Edward S. Herman

President Ford and Secretary of State Kissinger gave the go ahead to Suharto’s invasion of East Timor and subsequent massive war crimes there, and the same Kissinger, who helped President Nixon engineer and then protect the Pinochet coup and regime of torture and murder, and directed the first phase of the holocaust in Cambodia (1969-75) …

The time was September 11, 1973. The country was Chile. The event was the bloody overthrow of a democratic government. And the criminals were Henry Kissinger, Richard Nixon, The CIA, and Chilean Dictator Augusto Pinochet. Pepsico, ITT, and other large U.S. corporations were also guilty parties in these crimes against the State and against The People of Chile. The Pornography of Power

TOBY HARNDEN, TELEGRAPH, LONDON: Washington reacted furiously to a request by Chilean judges for Henry Kissinger, the former secretary of state, to answer questions about an American journalist killed during the 1973 coup in Chile. A Bush administration official condemned the Chilean supreme court decision to send questions to Dr Kissinger, saying the move increased unease about the proposed International Criminal Court in The Hague. The administration source said: “It is unjust and ridiculous that a distinguished servant of this country should be harassed by foreign courts in this way. The danger of the ICC is that, one day, US citizens might face arrest abroad and prosecution as a result of such politically motivated antics.” . . . In its ruling, Chile’s supreme court said a list of questions should be sent to the US supreme court with regard to Dr Kissinger’s knowledge of the circumstances surrounding the death of Charles Horman, a journalist arrested by troops loyal to General Augusto Pinochet. His body was identified in a mortuary weeks later . . . The Chilean order came less than two months after French detectives delivered a court summons to Dr Kissinger, who was visiting Paris, asking him to testify about the disappearance of French nationals in Chile . . . In another case, a judge in Argentina has ordered Dr Kissinger to testify in a human-rights trial about a 1970s plan by South American governments to kidnap and kill Left-wing critics. [news/2001/08/01]

The US involvement in coup planning began even before Allende’s election victory, under the code-name FUBELT, with action plans prepared for Kissinger’s consideration. One group of officers working under CIA direction carried out the assassination of General Rene Schneider, a pro-Allende officer, in an unsuccessful attempt to spark a full-scale coup before Allende could take office. Can Henry Kissinger be Extradited?

He serves his consulting firm, Kissinger Associates, serves as a sort of private National Security Adviser and Secretary of State to about 30 major corporations around the world, such as American Express, Freeport-McMoRan Minerals, Chase Manhattan Bank, Volvo … Walter Isaacson on Booknotes

According to the new book Kissinger, by Walter Isaacson, published in 1992 by Simon & Schuster, ASEA Brown Boveri (page 733) had a contract or project arrangement with Henry Kissinger’s money-making consulting firm, Kissinger Associates, in 1990. According to this fascinating book, Kissinger started his consultancy in July 1982 with “$350,000 lent to him by Goldman Sachs and a consortium of three other banks.” Some of the people Kissinger hired to work for him were Brent Scowcroft, former national security adviser, and Lawrence Eagleburger “who was lured aboard as president in June 1984 after serving as undersecretary of state”. Both Snowcroft and Eagleburger left Kissinger Associates in 1989 to join President Bush’s administration. Kent Associates is a subsidiary of Kissinger Associates. On pages 733-734 a list of some of Kissinger’s corporate clients include, aside from ABB: Shearson Lehman Hutton, Atlantic Richfield, Banca Nazionale del Lavora (BNL) “a Rome bank that made illegal loans to Iraq”; Fluor; Hunt Oil; Merck & Co.; Union Carbide. http://www.workonwaste.org/wastenots/wn218.htm

The Iranian: Opinion, Kissinger, Good will – From “The Oil Deal With Iran” by Henry Kissinger, distributed by the Los Angeles Times Syndicate and published in The Washington Post (October 28, 1997).
Chapter 9 – An Abridged History of the United States – . This material rested on illegal wiretaps ordered by Henry Kissinger, and it turned up in John Ehrlichman’s office.
Kissinger, Iraq, BNL

Kissinger was born in Fuerth, Germany, on May 27, 1923, came to the United States in 1938, and was naturalized a United States citizen on June 19, 1943. He speaks French and German.

Kissinger is married to the former Nancy Maginnes and is the father of two children [Elizabeth and David] by a previous marriage. First wife, Ann Fleischer.

Henry and Nancy Kissinger have a house in Kent Connecticut.

On American Express Board of Directors.

The Chairman of Kissinger McLarty Associates is Dr. Henry Kissinger. Washington, D.C.-based Kissinger McLarty Associates is an affiliate of Kissinger Associates, Inc., which is headquartered in New York City. GlobalNet Retains Kissinger McLarty Strategic Consulting Firm … “The firm of Kissinger, McLarty & Richardson epitomizes Washington, D.C. at its worst – sleazy ex-administration officials, feeding off special influence and power and then … – Larry Klayman from Judicial Watch KISSINGER, McLARTY & RICHARDSON

Kissinger Associates, Inc.
350 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10022
(212) 759-7919

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I looked up Mr. Ferguson.  Selfishly, I wish I had not. Turns out, Mssrs. Ferguson and Kissinger go way back.

In 2009, the International Republican Institute (“IRI”), Chaired for the past 2 (two) decades by Sen. John McCain, awarded Henry Kissinger their Freedom Award.  In his opening remarks, Sen. McCain noted that instead of the usual presentation of formal remarks, the honoree has agreed to participate in a discussion with interviewer Dr. Niall Ferguson, Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History at Harvard College.  McCain, referring to the interviewer by his first name, relates in his bid for the Presidency, “…the two advisers I wish I could have spent more time consulting… are the two distinguished historians we are about to hear from.”  (Note:  the UK Times also reports, Mr. Ferguson quit the McCain campaign to advise candidate Barack Obama. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249095/)

I only anticipated Obama would be disastrous for foreign policy, especially in the middle east, and tried to warn others;  based on his limited record related to foreign policy; the people who historically had influenced his life in relation to foreign affairs; as well as the people he had chosen to advise him on foreign policy when he was still only the D Corporation Presidential nominee wannabe.  (I didn’t get past Samantha Power.)
05/09/2008 – 8:10am EDT | jbjd

One of the several reasons I support Senator Clinton for the Office of President of the United States is her practical multi-step approach to solving our country’s problems. For example, addressing complaints and concerns about the high price of gas, I understood Senator Clinton to say that, short-term, we can ease consumers’ burden by imposing a gas tax holiday and shifting the burden to the oil companies, through a tax on windfall profits. Long term, she proposed conservation and sanctioning OPEC through the WTO.

One of the several reasons I do not support Senator Obama for the Office of President of the United States is that he omits from his list of ‘qualifications’ to the office, the only experience I find that could credibly contribute to a claim of his ability to lead the country, that is, his stint as the head of the Annenberg Challenge. This is the educational program set up by his friend, the self-promoting terrorist, William Ayers, who hired his inexperienced pal to run the show. (And because his chief foreign policy adviser, Samantha Power, advocated in 2003 that the President should unilaterally invade Israel to establish a Palestinian state because, to paraphrase, ‘powerful lobbies in this country would otherwise prevent such a move’. And because he gave Senator Clinton the finger.)

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/let-them-eat-arugula

jbjd, on July 27, 2008 at 2:35 am said:Austin Goolsbee is still BO’s chief economic adviser. But he did shove Mr. G onto the hood of the bus by claiming the only reason he lied that his staff hadn’t met with the Canadians to discuss NAFTA is that Mr. Goolsbee, who met with the Canadians, hadn’t told him.

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/what-is-wrong-with-barack-obama/

By jbjd – May 8, 2008 11:51:22 AM ET

Is anti-Semitism not a deal breaker for Democrats endorsing Barack Obama for the Office of President of the United States because he is bi-racial?

If I am a member of and a major financial contributor to a church whose minister revels in the company of Louis Farrakhan; traveled with him to confer with the leader of an anti-Semitic terrorist regime; and, in 2007, proclaimed he is the “Man of the year; all the while touting him as my spiritual mentor, it is safe for you to assume, I am not too crazy about the Jews. And if I am running for the Office of President of the United States in 2008; and I select as one of my advisers Samantha Power, who in 2003 published a paper at Harvard in which she advocated unilaterally breaching Israel’s sovereignty to create a Palestinian state (because otherwise, to paraphrase, ‘powerful lobbies in this country will never permit such an establishment’), then it is safe for you to assume, I haven’t changed my mind.

For your information, here’s how I learned about Samantha Power. I figured checking out the staff who advise Candidate Obama would inform me what to expect of a President Obama (assuming he would staff the White House with these same people). I got their names from his web site and then searched the internet. In this way, over countless hours, I educated myself about the candidate, learning enough about him to be certain, he would never earn my vote.

http://my.democrats.org/page/community/post/jbjd/ChN7

jbjd May 07, 2008 at 7:04PM

Will Oregonians support an anti-Semite for the Office of President of the United States, because he is black?If I am a member of and a major financial contributor to a church whose minister revels in the company of Louis Farrakhan; traveled with him to confer with the leader of an anti-Semitic terrorist regime; and, in 2007, proclaimed he is the “Man of the year, all the while touting him as my spiritual mentor, it is safe for you to assume, I am not too crazy about the Jews. And if I am running for the Office of President of the United States in 2008; and I select as one of my advisers Samantha Powers, who in 2003 published a paper in which she advocated unilaterally breaching Israel’s sovereignty to create a Palestinian state (because otherwise, to paraphrase, ‘powerful lobbies in this country will never permit such an establishment’), then it is safe for you to assume, I haven’t changed my mind.

Did your newspaper know about Samantha Power? If so, why didn’t you print the story? If not, why didn’t you know? For your information, here’s how I learned about Samantha Power. I figured checking out Candidate Obama’s advisers would inform me what to expect of a President Obama (assuming he would staff the White House with these same people). I got their names from his web site and then searched the internet. In this way, over countless hours, I educated myself about the candidate, learning enough about him to be certain, he would never earn my vote.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2008/05/portland_democratic_presidenti/886/comments-newest.html

But then again, I am not a noted  historian.

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6 Responses to HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVES

  1. Al says:

    Hi jbjd!

    Appreciate yet another interesting and thought-provoking post shared here by you. Also share your legitimately concerns about Obama regarding his inexperience in foreign-policy matters. In 2009, he was caught completely off guard when the courageous Iranian people dared to challenge Ahmadinejad’s sinsiter regime; and, most recently, with the events unfolding in Egypt, Obama seemed to waver from day to day about exactly where to position himself as that crisis unfolded over several weeks…Hopefuly, the Red Phone won’t ring much at 3AM during the remainder of his tenure in office. Former President Jimmy Carter may have finally found someone whose foreign-policy grade may rank beneath his. Because I love my country, I hope Mr. Obama will rally on foreign-policy and serve with distinction from this point on.

    Have a great week ahead. Back next week to lurk and learn some more.

    Al: Ah, ever the optimist, I see. And now that the people in Iran are in the streets again; I wonder whether we will hear sentiments from Obama, similar to those we heard just weeks ago in regard to the uprising in Egypt. That is, ‘Ahmadinejad must go!’

    Just curious… Presumably, you discussed your concerns that Obama was too inexperienced in foreign policy to assume the Presidency. What was the sentiment of your circle of friends/family/acquaintances? I was really taken aback that voters seemed to dismiss the role of foreign policy in the choice of CiC. ADMINISTRATOR

  2. FranSC says:

    jbjd – Thank you for this article. I was not familiar with Historian Niall Ferguson until I heard him give Mika Brzezinski (‘Morning Joe’/ MSNBCOBAMA) the best smack-down I’ve heard in a while when she started her interview with this: “What was wrong with President 0bama’s handling of the Egyptian crisis?”. It was posted by Glenn Beck who was also having a field day with it. It’s at least a relief to know if Ferguson advised B0 in 2008, he’s no fan. I prefer calling this a smack-down as opposed to Beck’s “Mika…gets a spanking” (another topic for another day.)

    FranSC

    FranSC: Hey, how are you? (Sorry about Clyburn’s re-election. As you can see, I did my best to educate that district (as well as his R opponent), he cared far less about representing their best interests than he did, his own.)

    Yes, I wondered whether Ferguson had misadvised Obama intentionally about how to proceed in the Middle East (having first worked for the McCain campaign); or whether he advised him appropriately but his advice was ignored. But what really squelched my initial euphoria that the brilliant mind who had conceived the ‘money’ show I watched on PBS had dissed Obama’s handling of the military coup in Egypt; was Ferguson’s wholesale embrace of his (Ferguson’s) pal, Henry Kissinger. And I almost missed this aspect of his history, entirely, but for Joe’s question in the video asking whose foreign policy approach he – Ferguson – thought sound. And he answered, Kissinger.

    I thought, in all fairness, if his judgment is so ‘off’ with regard to the one man, how can I justify celebrating his opinion of another? ADMINISTRATOR

    • FranSC says:

      oooops! jbjd, I had not downloaded the photos, etc., for this post before I wrote and sent my comment. Unfortunately that included the video you posted above. Since you didn’t mention Meka and I did not see the video until after the fact, I’m horrified I sent you a very bad version of the sound portion of the same interview. Please delete my comment! I’ll try to do better next time.

      FranSC: You are so funny! Didn’t you notice, I spent hours (literally) figuring out how to post the original MSNBC video, so as to 1) give credit where credit was due; and 2) give readers the best image and sound.

      I will delete that link, as you asked. ADMINISTRATOR

      • FranSC says:

        I know just enough about this stuff to be dangerous – that is the technology part. (There are probably some who think that is true of what I write! I hope not.) Talk to you soon.

        Fran

        FranSC: Ha! We should all be so dangerous! (That is, we should all be able to manipulate the technology of the internet super highway. Otherwise, those of us with superior knowledge might use that knowledge to usurp power from the rest of us! Hmmm, I am sensing a pattern of conduct here…) ADMINISTRATOR

    • FranSC says:

      jbjd, apparently you and I were writing at the same time when I was apologizing for posting the sound portion of the same interview! At least you did not act like I was off my rocker. Aside from that, I agree there are some very interesting inconsistencies going on there with Ferguson. Thanks for cluing me about Kissinger – very disappointing!

      FranSC: Just to clarify, what part of my write-up about Kissinger did you find “very disappointing,” his role in fomenting dissent throughout the world; or, already aware of this modus operandi, were you disappointed Ferguson would laud such conduct? ADMINISTRATOR

  3. bob strauss says:

    New information. wnd.com/?pageId=264897

    bob strauss: I only read wnd because you sent this to me. Otherwise, I consider anything printed there to be of no credible value. (Sure, this means, some rare facts that appear in the rag, may evade my scrutiny; but ferreting through the ‘noise’ in order to find those facts and verify them independently, is not worth the time or trouble.)

    Again, wnd appears to be intentionally misleading its readers about the facts and hyperbolically manipulating their emotions into clinging to the lie, the case it cites, already denied a hearing by the SCOTUS, has a legal chance in hell to be re-heard on the merits. In fact, even assuming the ‘fact’ of the re-hearing being granted is true, all it means is this. ‘We were so eager to turn down your case involving Obama’s Constitutional eligibility for President on the merits that we forgot to rule separately against your Motion for Recusal.’

    It’s a shame so many wnd readers, reasonably outraged at the election scam that gave us Obama; still fail to recognize when they are being had. ADMINISTRATOR

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