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		<title>By: jbjd</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;g:&lt;/strong&gt; No; but, at that point, he has standing to ask the SoS not to certify his name to the ballot, inasmuch as he wasn&#039;t federally qualified for the job. And in TX, only federally qualified candidates are entitled to appear on the ballot. (Remember; saying a candidate has not been federally qualified to appear on the ballot is not the same as saying, s/he is (Constitutionally) ineligible for the job.) &lt;strong&gt;ADMINISTRATOR&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>g:</strong> No; but, at that point, he has standing to ask the SoS not to certify his name to the ballot, inasmuch as he wasn&#8217;t federally qualified for the job. And in TX, only federally qualified candidates are entitled to appear on the ballot. (Remember; saying a candidate has not been federally qualified to appear on the ballot is not the same as saying, s/he is (Constitutionally) ineligible for the job.) <strong>ADMINISTRATOR</strong></p>
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		<title>By: g</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama has not been nominated yet but when he is, can Romney then ask for legal poof of obama legal status?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has not been nominated yet but when he is, can Romney then ask for legal poof of obama legal status?</p>
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		<title>By: INELIGIBLE to MERIT your SUPPORT &#171; jbjd</title>
		<link>http://jbjd.org/2012/07/03/tx-ballot-challenge-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-10589</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[INELIGIBLE to MERIT your SUPPORT &#171; jbjd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 16:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] federally qualify to appear on the general election ballot. Our efforts are loosely chronicled in TEXAS BALLOT CHALLENGE CHALLENGE (You can also listen to our last show on LoneStarRadio, On the Radio 06.30.12.) And we pulled all [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] federally qualify to appear on the general election ballot. Our efforts are loosely chronicled in TEXAS BALLOT CHALLENGE CHALLENGE (You can also listen to our last show on LoneStarRadio, On the Radio 06.30.12.) And we pulled all [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jbjd</title>
		<link>http://jbjd.org/2012/07/03/tx-ballot-challenge-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-10376</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;kjcanon:&lt;/strong&gt; Glad you liked the speech. Writing for you after all this time is easy; after all of our long-distance work together, I have gotten to &#039;know&#039; you well! 

I get the feeling people aren&#039;t fully grasping the importance of the work we have done in Texas because it&#039;s not &#039;sexy.&#039; For example, we have not conclusively proven any particular candidate for President or Vice President is Constitutionally ineligible for the job - ineligibility doesn&#039;t per se make illegal obtaining the job, anyway - or established the definitive meaning of NBC - your opinion is as good as mine but not nearly as good as a federal appellate court - produced a famous spokesperson to proclaim we have (almost, press conference pending). 

What we have done is to obtain evidence that, in TX 1) ballot eligibility laws are not being carried out; and 2) the TDP failed to federally qualify its candidates (notwithstanding people have spent 4 years misdirected on whether electronic images (or hard copies thereof) are &#039;real.&#039;) (Think about it; if these images were more than part of a political advertising campaign, wouldn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;someone &lt;/em&gt;certifying a candidate&#039;s name to the ballot in a state requiring job eligibility; summon &lt;em&gt;that &lt;/em&gt;image as a basis for the candidate&#039;s federal authentication?) 

I am not talking out of school when I disclose that, even you spent too much time sidetracked on ancillary issues, before coming home to what matters: given existing ballot laws, how do we ensure that any candidate whose name appears on our ballot is federally qualified for the job? (Of course; you had the advantage of living in a state with such laws!)

In the past 4 years; people in other states could have enacted these candidate eligibility laws. And they, too, could now be working to ensure these laws are being carried out for the 2012 ballot. But they appear to be sidetracked, still, focusing their energies on railing against perceived inequities in our electoral system but unwilling to expend those same energies on fixing it. Maybe that&#039;s too much work. At least they can contribute to our work; because we certainly have the determination required to follow through with the legal case, despite exhausting ourselves and our finances to get to this point.

I know that speaking publicly - even on the radio Saturday mornings - does not come naturally to you. But you keep on keeping on. I am so proud of you. Thank you. &lt;strong&gt;ADMINISTRATOR&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>kjcanon:</strong> Glad you liked the speech. Writing for you after all this time is easy; after all of our long-distance work together, I have gotten to &#8216;know&#8217; you well! </p>
<p>I get the feeling people aren&#8217;t fully grasping the importance of the work we have done in Texas because it&#8217;s not &#8216;sexy.&#8217; For example, we have not conclusively proven any particular candidate for President or Vice President is Constitutionally ineligible for the job &#8211; ineligibility doesn&#8217;t per se make illegal obtaining the job, anyway &#8211; or established the definitive meaning of NBC &#8211; your opinion is as good as mine but not nearly as good as a federal appellate court &#8211; produced a famous spokesperson to proclaim we have (almost, press conference pending). </p>
<p>What we have done is to obtain evidence that, in TX 1) ballot eligibility laws are not being carried out; and 2) the TDP failed to federally qualify its candidates (notwithstanding people have spent 4 years misdirected on whether electronic images (or hard copies thereof) are &#8216;real.&#8217;) (Think about it; if these images were more than part of a political advertising campaign, wouldn&#8217;t <em>someone </em>certifying a candidate&#8217;s name to the ballot in a state requiring job eligibility; summon <em>that </em>image as a basis for the candidate&#8217;s federal authentication?) </p>
<p>I am not talking out of school when I disclose that, even you spent too much time sidetracked on ancillary issues, before coming home to what matters: given existing ballot laws, how do we ensure that any candidate whose name appears on our ballot is federally qualified for the job? (Of course; you had the advantage of living in a state with such laws!)</p>
<p>In the past 4 years; people in other states could have enacted these candidate eligibility laws. And they, too, could now be working to ensure these laws are being carried out for the 2012 ballot. But they appear to be sidetracked, still, focusing their energies on railing against perceived inequities in our electoral system but unwilling to expend those same energies on fixing it. Maybe that&#8217;s too much work. At least they can contribute to our work; because we certainly have the determination required to follow through with the legal case, despite exhausting ourselves and our finances to get to this point.</p>
<p>I know that speaking publicly &#8211; even on the radio Saturday mornings &#8211; does not come naturally to you. But you keep on keeping on. I am so proud of you. Thank you. <strong>ADMINISTRATOR</strong></p>
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		<title>By: kjcanon</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As usual, this is a great write-up.  One of my favorite lines when referring to the RPT Chair:  &quot;And even I am not brazen enough to ask Chairman Munisteri to file an injunction keeping off our general election ballot the name of the Republican Vice Presidential nominee!&quot;  Seems as if there has already been enough &#039;brazen activity&#039; to go around, here in Texas - especially with regard to how our laws are actually being carried out, compared to how they were INTENDED to be carried out.  In other words, the Exec branch has completely IGNORED our ballot laws.  That (to me) is most definitely a &quot;brazen&quot; act. And it begs the question:  Why would our legislature even bother enacting such laws (that would normally protect our ballot from unqualified candidates), if the Exec branch won&#039;t bother to correctly carry them out, anyway?  Makes my head swim!  And then, there&#039;s the overwhelming apathy coming from the Director of the Elections Division, Mr. Keith Ingram.  It was really incredible how he blatantly waved us off, and pointed at the State Capital Building behind him, through his 3rd floor corner-office window, saying, &quot;take your concerns there&quot;.  It was at that very moment that we *KNEW*, the Secretary was going to place the names on our general ballot of whichever candidates the political parties nominated, once the nominating conventions were over.  It&#039;s equal to watching a train-wreck in slow motion.  You can see that the track ahead is broken, and you&#039;re trying to get the train stopped in time.  

As jbjd has mentioned, I am going this alone as the one who will actually *file the injunction*, because of my unique situation:  I have the documents/evidence.  But we need help.  Money, time, and effort.  None are free.  But we&#039;re ready.  jbjd is compiling the case. It&#039;s solid. It&#039;s quality work, too, which is the only way she does things anyway.   It took 6 months of exhaustive research and collaboration, discussions, and even the occasional &quot;hair-pulling&quot; moments, where you just want to yell at the top of your lungs, &quot;OMG!&quot;.  Yes, frustration can get the best of you - even if you have the patience of a Saint.  With that said, I think it is only fair to ask for help at this point.  I&#039;ve been contributing to jbjd&#039;s blog on a regular basis for the last 6 months.  But this is getting to the point where she (and I) need some assistance. I need a small team here in Texas:  3 or 4 people who are willing to set aside time, energy, and valuable financial contributions.  Oh, and did I mention, we only have 60 days?  Yep.  From this point, the clock is ticking.  jbjd has my permission to give my contact info to those who are willing to step up, and offer the kind of help mentioned above.  

ARE YOU IN?
-Kelly Canon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, this is a great write-up.  One of my favorite lines when referring to the RPT Chair:  &#8220;And even I am not brazen enough to ask Chairman Munisteri to file an injunction keeping off our general election ballot the name of the Republican Vice Presidential nominee!&#8221;  Seems as if there has already been enough &#8216;brazen activity&#8217; to go around, here in Texas &#8211; especially with regard to how our laws are actually being carried out, compared to how they were INTENDED to be carried out.  In other words, the Exec branch has completely IGNORED our ballot laws.  That (to me) is most definitely a &#8220;brazen&#8221; act. And it begs the question:  Why would our legislature even bother enacting such laws (that would normally protect our ballot from unqualified candidates), if the Exec branch won&#8217;t bother to correctly carry them out, anyway?  Makes my head swim!  And then, there&#8217;s the overwhelming apathy coming from the Director of the Elections Division, Mr. Keith Ingram.  It was really incredible how he blatantly waved us off, and pointed at the State Capital Building behind him, through his 3rd floor corner-office window, saying, &#8220;take your concerns there&#8221;.  It was at that very moment that we *KNEW*, the Secretary was going to place the names on our general ballot of whichever candidates the political parties nominated, once the nominating conventions were over.  It&#8217;s equal to watching a train-wreck in slow motion.  You can see that the track ahead is broken, and you&#8217;re trying to get the train stopped in time.  </p>
<p>As jbjd has mentioned, I am going this alone as the one who will actually *file the injunction*, because of my unique situation:  I have the documents/evidence.  But we need help.  Money, time, and effort.  None are free.  But we&#8217;re ready.  jbjd is compiling the case. It&#8217;s solid. It&#8217;s quality work, too, which is the only way she does things anyway.   It took 6 months of exhaustive research and collaboration, discussions, and even the occasional &#8220;hair-pulling&#8221; moments, where you just want to yell at the top of your lungs, &#8220;OMG!&#8221;.  Yes, frustration can get the best of you &#8211; even if you have the patience of a Saint.  With that said, I think it is only fair to ask for help at this point.  I&#8217;ve been contributing to jbjd&#8217;s blog on a regular basis for the last 6 months.  But this is getting to the point where she (and I) need some assistance. I need a small team here in Texas:  3 or 4 people who are willing to set aside time, energy, and valuable financial contributions.  Oh, and did I mention, we only have 60 days?  Yep.  From this point, the clock is ticking.  jbjd has my permission to give my contact info to those who are willing to step up, and offer the kind of help mentioned above.  </p>
<p>ARE YOU IN?<br />
-Kelly Canon</p>
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		<title>By: jbjd</title>
		<link>http://jbjd.org/2012/07/03/tx-ballot-challenge-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-10354</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Steven Lee Craig:&lt;/strong&gt; Notice, this anticipated suit necessarily only aims at getting the Secretary to follow &lt;em&gt;existing &lt;/em&gt;TX laws with respect to the ballot. She has plenary authority over the election, by law. So, she gets to define terms like &quot;federal qualifications&quot; found in the statute. But the law allows the parties to submit the names of their candidates to the SoS for placement on the ballot, making them &lt;em&gt;in this specific instance&lt;/em&gt;, public officials. So, as long as they meet the standard she has set for qualifying candidates to the ballot; they &#039;earned&#039; the right to appear. But none of the TDP candidates, or the RPT candidates being mentioned for VP; has satisfied that standard. &lt;strong&gt;ADMINISTRATOR&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Steven Lee Craig:</strong> Notice, this anticipated suit necessarily only aims at getting the Secretary to follow <em>existing </em>TX laws with respect to the ballot. She has plenary authority over the election, by law. So, she gets to define terms like &#8220;federal qualifications&#8221; found in the statute. But the law allows the parties to submit the names of their candidates to the SoS for placement on the ballot, making them <em>in this specific instance</em>, public officials. So, as long as they meet the standard she has set for qualifying candidates to the ballot; they &#8216;earned&#8217; the right to appear. But none of the TDP candidates, or the RPT candidates being mentioned for VP; has satisfied that standard. <strong>ADMINISTRATOR</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Lee Craig</title>
		<link>http://jbjd.org/2012/07/03/tx-ballot-challenge-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-10351</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand your position and will &#039;assist&#039; as my limited resources will allow.

Another &#039;fine point&#039; to your position may be to suggest that the &#039;failure&#039; of the SOS to demand that the TDP include the NBC requirement to the TDP&#039;s application/certification is tantamount to accepting the TDP as a &#039;de facto&#039; guv&#039;mnt agency and that their Rule making process in regard to the composition of their application/certification should be covered by the States administrative rules acts...............]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your position and will &#8216;assist&#8217; as my limited resources will allow.</p>
<p>Another &#8216;fine point&#8217; to your position may be to suggest that the &#8216;failure&#8217; of the SOS to demand that the TDP include the NBC requirement to the TDP&#8217;s application/certification is tantamount to accepting the TDP as a &#8216;de facto&#8217; guv&#8217;mnt agency and that their Rule making process in regard to the composition of their application/certification should be covered by the States administrative rules acts&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jbjd</title>
		<link>http://jbjd.org/2012/07/03/tx-ballot-challenge-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-10348</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Steven Lee Craig:&lt;/strong&gt; There is no legally binding definition of NBC until a federal appellate court issues one, in a holding in a case directly on point. And, to get that, states need to define NBC for the purpose of getting on the ballot but not into the WH. Because state executives don&#039;t get to define Presidential eligibility in the Constitution; but they do get to say, who has access to their ballots. The party that challenges that definition of NBC which applies to getting on the ballot; will begin the process which will end with a legally binding definition.

In TX, we&#039;re not trying to get the court to define anything. The SoS already has ruled what is a federally qualified candidate. That is, she promulgated a ballot application which asks the candidate whether s/he is a NBC. A &#039;yes&#039; answer gets you on the ballot. But this means; the candidate who failed to answer &#039;yes,&#039; does not get on the ballot. Because in TX, failing to answer &#039;yes&#039; means, you&#039;re not federally qualified for the job.

All of the D candidates in the primary failed to answer &#039;yes.&#039; Indeed, they weren&#039;t even asked. So, under TX law, they are not entitled to appear on the general election ballot. Not because they are ineligible for the job - who knows - but because they failed to meet eligibility for the ballot.

Thanks for your offer of help. We need money to pay for what we are doing. Just meeting with the SoS required a drive to and from Austin; and an overnight hotel stay. But that meeting produced material evidence that the SoS will not obey the law, without court intervention. &lt;strong&gt;ADMINISTRATOR  &lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Steven Lee Craig:</strong> There is no legally binding definition of NBC until a federal appellate court issues one, in a holding in a case directly on point. And, to get that, states need to define NBC for the purpose of getting on the ballot but not into the WH. Because state executives don&#8217;t get to define Presidential eligibility in the Constitution; but they do get to say, who has access to their ballots. The party that challenges that definition of NBC which applies to getting on the ballot; will begin the process which will end with a legally binding definition.</p>
<p>In TX, we&#8217;re not trying to get the court to define anything. The SoS already has ruled what is a federally qualified candidate. That is, she promulgated a ballot application which asks the candidate whether s/he is a NBC. A &#8216;yes&#8217; answer gets you on the ballot. But this means; the candidate who failed to answer &#8216;yes,&#8217; does not get on the ballot. Because in TX, failing to answer &#8216;yes&#8217; means, you&#8217;re not federally qualified for the job.</p>
<p>All of the D candidates in the primary failed to answer &#8216;yes.&#8217; Indeed, they weren&#8217;t even asked. So, under TX law, they are not entitled to appear on the general election ballot. Not because they are ineligible for the job &#8211; who knows &#8211; but because they failed to meet eligibility for the ballot.</p>
<p>Thanks for your offer of help. We need money to pay for what we are doing. Just meeting with the SoS required a drive to and from Austin; and an overnight hotel stay. But that meeting produced material evidence that the SoS will not obey the law, without court intervention. <strong>ADMINISTRATOR  </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Lee Craig</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a native son of the State of Oklahoma and have made attempts to have the Courts determine the Constitutionally &quot;legal&quot;, (enforceable), definition of the Constitutional idiom of natural born Citizen.

IMO, it is the lack of a &quot;legal&quot; definition that is the &quot;legal-loop-hole&quot; that the usurping cabal relies on.

I am willing to assist with the efforts in Texas in whatever way I can and may make another attempt to injoin Ballot access here in OK on principle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a native son of the State of Oklahoma and have made attempts to have the Courts determine the Constitutionally &#8220;legal&#8221;, (enforceable), definition of the Constitutional idiom of natural born Citizen.</p>
<p>IMO, it is the lack of a &#8220;legal&#8221; definition that is the &#8220;legal-loop-hole&#8221; that the usurping cabal relies on.</p>
<p>I am willing to assist with the efforts in Texas in whatever way I can and may make another attempt to injoin Ballot access here in OK on principle.</p>
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